WASHINGTON – FBI Director Kash Patel and Democratic Rep. Madeleine Dean got into a fiery exchange over his loyalty to President Donald Trump, as she accused him of apparent perjury and being “unfit” for his post while he fired back that she was “lying” about him.
During a May 7 hearing on the FBI’s budget, Dean accused Patel of helping the president weaponize the FBI and investigate his perceived enemies, including a Wisconsin judge charged with helping an undocumented immigrant.
“I am concerned that your eagerness and childlike giddiness to carry out the president’s revenge tour, you have shown yourself to be unserious,” said Dean of Pennsylvania, who served as an impeachment prosecutor against Trump in his 2021 Senate trial after his first term. “In your statements before you were sworn in and some after, you have shown yourself unfit to lead this important agency.”
Dean also accused Patel of apparent perjury for testifying during his Senate confirmation hearing that he was unfamiliar with Stew Peters, an allegedly antisemitic Holocaust denier, despite appearing on Peters’ podcast eight times.
“Should we worry more about your memory or your veracity?” Dean asked.
Patel fired back that his book “Government Gangsters” didn’t contain an “enemies list” of people whom Trump should investigate.
“We should worry more about your lack of candor. You’re accusing me of committing perjury? Tell the American people how I broke the law and committed a felony,” Patel said. “Have the audacity to actually put the facts forward instead of lying for political banter so you can have a 20-second donation hit.”
“The answer is your failing, not me,” Patel added.
Patel says he proposed $1 billion more than FBI than Trump
The clash erupted during a House Appropriations subcommittee hearing on Trump’s budget blueprint for the FBI. Trump proposed a $545 million cut for the agency, for about $10.2 billion for the year starting Oct. 1. But Patel said he proposed a $500 million increase, to about $11.2 billion.
Dean asked if Patel would confront Trump about the difference.
“In your proposal, you find a gulf of difference between you and the president,” Dean said. “Are you going to go to the president and straighten out that gulf?”
Patel said he would represent the American people, uphold the Constitution and ensure the FBI isn’t weaponized.
“Maybe you should do the same,” said Patel, who told Dean that television cameras were waiting for her if she wanted to keep putting words in his mouth.
“This is an unserious moment for the FBI,” Dean replied as her time for questions ran out.
“More so for you,” Patel replied.
Lawmakers complain about lack of details in FBI ‘Ozempic’ budget
Lawkmakers repeatedly asked about the discrepancy between what Patel sought for FBI funding and what he said Trump’s Office of Management and Budget sent in its proposal May 6 to Congress. The lack of detail led to its nickname as a “skinny” budget, which Dean called an “Ozempic budget,” but the administration plans to submit more details in the future.
“This is your budget,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. “You have to have some idea of what to fund or not fund.”
Patel moving 1,000 agents, analysts out of headquarters to states
Patel said if lawmakers adopted Trump’s proposal, he would have to cut 1,300 staffers and not fill 1,100 vacancies. But he said he would fight for more funding in negotiations with Congress.
“At this time we have not focused on who to cut. We are focusing our energies on how not to do the cuts,” Patel said. “What we’re focusing on is working with our partners in OMB and appropriators to say that we cannot cover our mission at the levels that we would have to go to…should all the budget cuts be needed.”
In addition to negotiations over funding, Patel said he was reducing staffing in the FBI headquarters region in Washington, D.C., as he said when he was nominated. He is moving 1,000 agents and analysts from the headquarters to regional offices in every state. The FBI has about 11,000 staffers in the D.C. region out of 35,000 total.
Lawmakers were eager to hear who was getting greater staffing. Based on the proportion of violent crime per capita, Patel said Texas is slated to get 90 more FBI staffers, Missouri 37 and Virginia 20.
“I firmly believe putting people in the field is one of the ways we can secure our communities,” Patel said.
This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: Democratic lawmaker clashes with FBI Director Patel over investigations
