Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk appeared on Newsmax Wednesday to discuss what he called a growing disillusionment among younger MAGA voters regarding the Epstein case.
A memo from the Justice Department allegedly said Jeffrey Epstein did not leave behind a “list of associates” and took his own life, contradicting Attorney General Pam Bondi’s statements that she had examined such a list. During an appearance on “Rob Schmitt Tonight,” Kirk said younger people are deeply invested in online discussions and want transparency from their leaders.
“They look at it as a bigger question of how our government operates. And Rob, I think that is why people are so interested in this and remain interested, because it’s a greater question of how the inner workings of the deep state are functioning and whether or not the people are able to have a voice in this,” Kirk told Schmitt.
Kirk said President Donald Trump’s supporters fall into three main categories: younger voters, libertarian-leaning individuals and those who are highly engaged online. These groups, he said, focus particularly on transparency. (RELATED: ‘This Is A Red Line’: Charlie Kirk Says It’s ‘Unspeakably Frustrating’ To Hear GOP Pushing For ‘Amnesty’)
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“I could tell you for the three types of categories, the people that got behind President Trump, younger voters, more kind of libertarian leaning voters, and those that spend a lot of time online or on the internet, they tend to be transparency advocates,” Kirk said. “The Epstein thing has been a very high priority. Here’s where I think things started to miss the mark a little bit, is that there were, by certain people that work for President Trump, high expectations made.”
Kirk said that the administration promised a major revelation about the Epstein case, saying they had an overwhelming amount of evidence that would be jaw-dropping and incredible. When those expectations were not met, disappointment set in.
“The administration said ‘Hey, there’s gonna be a big reveal,’ that we have a truckload of stuff, that it’s going to be jaw-dropping, that it’s gonna be incredible. So when expectations and reality are misaligned, that’s where people start to get disappointed,” Kirk said. “And so what happens next, so I think is gonna be really important. It’s gonna differentiate whether or not this is just a moment or a lasting multi-generational movement. And I could tell you from the younger voters that I represent, and then we have this huge student action summit coming up this weekend. They look at the Jeffrey Epstein situation, not necessarily about the terrible evil and sadistic behavior from this creep.”
Epstein’s death in 2019 at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York has sparked numerous conspiracy theories, especially after prison cameras malfunctioned and guards admitted to falsifying check-in records. The DOJ inspector general later said several surveillance cameras outside Epstein’s cell were not working, though others captured footage of the common area near his door.
FBI Director Kash Patel and Deputy Director Dan Bongino defended the agency’s conclusion in May. Bongino, a former Secret Service agent, said on “Fox & Friends” that the bureau reviewed footage showing Epstein alone in his cell. Both Patel and Bongino reiterated their stance on “Sunday Morning Futures,” saying the suicide ruling was undeniable.
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